Comments on: Bolt contemptibly uses bushfire deaths to bash “greenies” http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/bolt-contemptibly-uses-bushfire-deaths-to-bash-greenies/ Tackling the multiple idiocies of the Australian blogosphere's most giant, useless forces Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:38:42 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Lee Murray http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/bolt-contemptibly-uses-bushfire-deaths-to-bash-greenies/#comment-14846 Lee Murray Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:44:09 +0000 http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/?p=765#comment-14846 Thanks DBD, Will do! And, Ron Blogger, considering that this site has always been about exposing the hysterical/unfounded/ideologically-driven/ 'play the man/woman rather than the science' opinion pieces of Bolt and Blair, I reckon it's mind-boggling that you're whingeing about me 'allegedly' doing the same. If that tactic's good enough for your beloved conservative hacks to constantly utilise (and you're obviously happy enough with said tactics to defend them on this site), then why shouldn't I - or anyone else on this site - use the same tactics to attack them? Not that I'm admitting I've 'attacked the man' at all...could you and Rad please point out where it is exactly in my post critical of Kininmonth that I've had a go at him personally rather than his dubious science?? Thanks DBD,
Will do!
And, Ron Blogger, considering that this site has always been about exposing the hysterical/unfounded/ideologically-driven/ ‘play the man/woman rather than the science’ opinion pieces of Bolt and Blair, I reckon it’s mind-boggling that you’re whingeing about me ‘allegedly’ doing the same. If that tactic’s good enough for your beloved conservative hacks to constantly utilise (and you’re obviously happy enough with said tactics to defend them on this site), then why shouldn’t I – or anyone else on this site – use the same tactics to attack them? Not that I’m admitting I’ve ‘attacked the man’ at all…could you and Rad please point out where it is exactly in my post critical of Kininmonth that I’ve had a go at him personally rather than his dubious science??

]]> By: DBD http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/bolt-contemptibly-uses-bushfire-deaths-to-bash-greenies/#comment-14845 DBD Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:13:18 +0000 http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/?p=765#comment-14845 "That’s the biggest problem with climate change evangelists, they know that when it comes to a serious debate about the science, they will loose, so they attack the person and try & smear them." The only true thing Rad has ever said on this site... Problem is, he doesn't realise just who the "climate change evangelists" really are! BTW Lee, i dont think his site is going to have any new threads added. Might as well shift the debate over to Pure Poison. The fact Rad doesnt post there is only one of its advantages! “That’s the biggest problem with climate change evangelists, they know that when it comes to a serious debate about the science, they will loose, so they attack the person and try & smear them.”

The only true thing Rad has ever said on this site…

Problem is, he doesn’t realise just who the “climate change evangelists” really are!

BTW Lee, i dont think his site is going to have any new threads added. Might as well shift the debate over to Pure Poison. The fact Rad doesnt post there is only one of its advantages!

]]> By: Ron Blogger http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/bolt-contemptibly-uses-bushfire-deaths-to-bash-greenies/#comment-14844 Ron Blogger Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:45:01 +0000 http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/?p=765#comment-14844 <i>Sorry, but re-reading the previous posts, I can’t resist but having a go at the mental climate-change deniers I’m gonna have to put up with! Seriously, these people are mental!!!</i> Dude your post sounds like the rantings of a religious nut. Rad has a point, debate the science. All you have done is try and smear the scientist Rad quoted and rant like a religious nut. Sorry, but re-reading the previous posts, I can’t resist but having a go at the mental climate-change deniers I’m gonna have to put up with! Seriously, these people are mental!!!

Dude your post sounds like the rantings of a religious nut. Rad has a point, debate the science. All you have done is try and smear the scientist Rad quoted and rant like a religious nut.

]]> By: Lee Murray http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/bolt-contemptibly-uses-bushfire-deaths-to-bash-greenies/#comment-14843 Lee Murray Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:13:35 +0000 http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/?p=765#comment-14843 Hey...They really are mad!!!! Hey…They really are mad!!!!

]]> By: Lee Murray http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/bolt-contemptibly-uses-bushfire-deaths-to-bash-greenies/#comment-14842 Lee Murray Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:55:44 +0000 http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/?p=765#comment-14842 Sorry, but re-reading the previous posts, I can't resist but having a go at the mental climate-change deniers I'm gonna have to put up with! Seriously, these people are mental!!! Sorry, but re-reading the previous posts, I can’t resist but having a go at the mental climate-change deniers I’m gonna have to put up with! Seriously, these people are mental!!!

]]> By: Lee Murray http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/bolt-contemptibly-uses-bushfire-deaths-to-bash-greenies/#comment-14841 Lee Murray Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:38:41 +0000 http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/?p=765#comment-14841 Hey Rad, how about re-reading your own words and getting back to me re 'the science' of climate change. It's you deniers who continue to hold fast to your increasingly laughable and untenable position, despite the huge majority of reputable, credible scientists who are coming up with ever-more solid evidence that overwhelmingly supports the theory of man-made climate change...yet you're accusing me of ignoring the science??? Seriously - and I'm really not being facetious here; I do wanna understand - what is it that you deniers find so - I dunno - almost offensive about admitting that man-made climate change is happening?? Is it the $$$ aspect and the fear that us humans will have to radically change and re-think our profligate, consumerist ways to try and prevent catastrophe or is it some sorta weird Christian thing - ie, the Bible talks about humans having 'dominion' over the natural world, so therefore, if we start recognising and placing importance upon the environment, you deniers consider it akin to evil, Satan-worshipping paganism??? ps - I thought my criticism of William Kininmonth WAS about attacking his science and not the man - I don't remember making any personal criticisms of him in my post. pps - Where is the 'evidence' that governments around the world are 'starting to distance themselves from climate change policy'? I would've thought that with the election of Rudd and Obama, the reverse is true - granted, I'm not claiming that they are/will do enough to prevent us reaching dangerous tipping-points, but, unlike those denial dinosuars Howard and Dubya, at least they recognise it's REAL! Even the Coalition here are desperately trying to paint themselves as much more serious about climate-change than Rudd! Oh, and btw, the largest emitters in the developing world don't deny that man-made climate-change is real either, so, I don't really know who you're referring to. If you mean that some governments are questioning the METHODS by which we tackle man-made climate-change, that's entirely different. Hey Rad, how about re-reading your own words and getting back to me re ‘the science’ of climate change. It’s you deniers who continue to hold fast to your increasingly laughable and untenable position, despite the huge majority of reputable, credible scientists who are coming up with ever-more solid evidence that overwhelmingly supports the theory of man-made climate change…yet you’re accusing me of ignoring the science???
Seriously – and I’m really not being facetious here; I do wanna understand – what is it that you deniers find so – I dunno – almost offensive about admitting that man-made climate change is happening?? Is it the $$$ aspect and the fear that us humans will have to radically change and re-think our profligate, consumerist ways to try and prevent catastrophe or is it some sorta weird Christian thing – ie, the Bible talks about humans having ‘dominion’ over the natural world, so therefore, if we start recognising and placing importance upon the environment, you deniers consider it akin to evil, Satan-worshipping paganism???
ps – I thought my criticism of William Kininmonth WAS about attacking his science and not the man – I don’t remember making any personal criticisms of him in my post.
pps – Where is the ‘evidence’ that governments around the world are ’starting to distance themselves from climate change policy’? I would’ve thought that with the election of Rudd and Obama, the reverse is true – granted, I’m not claiming that they are/will do enough to prevent us reaching dangerous tipping-points, but, unlike those denial dinosuars Howard and Dubya, at least they recognise it’s REAL! Even the Coalition here are desperately trying to paint themselves as much more serious about climate-change than Rudd! Oh, and btw, the largest emitters in the developing world don’t deny that man-made climate-change is real either, so, I don’t really know who you’re referring to. If you mean that some governments are questioning the METHODS by which we tackle man-made climate-change, that’s entirely different.

]]> By: Rad Pipper http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/bolt-contemptibly-uses-bushfire-deaths-to-bash-greenies/#comment-14839 Rad Pipper Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:33:05 +0000 http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/?p=765#comment-14839 <i>What a surprise that you’re quoting William Kininmonth, Rad, to “prove” your point! This was the guy that was shown up for being the truth manipulating denial-dinosaur he is by Prof. David Karoly in a climate-change debate last year at Kew Town Hall. </i> *YAWN* Oh so predictable. Attack the man not the science. How about dealing with the climate science that was put forward instead of trying to smear the messenger. That's the biggest problem with climate change evangelists, they know that when it comes to a serious debate about the science, they will loose, so they attack the person and try & smear them. Well at least the world is finally waking up from this climate change evangelist rubbish and governments around the world are starting to distance themselves from climate change policy. What a surprise that you’re quoting William Kininmonth, Rad, to “prove” your point! This was the guy that was shown up for being the truth manipulating denial-dinosaur he is by Prof. David Karoly in a climate-change debate last year at Kew Town Hall.

*YAWN* Oh so predictable. Attack the man not the science. How about dealing with the climate science that was put forward instead of trying to smear the messenger. That’s the biggest problem with climate change evangelists, they know that when it comes to a serious debate about the science, they will loose, so they attack the person and try & smear them.

Well at least the world is finally waking up from this climate change evangelist rubbish and governments around the world are starting to distance themselves from climate change policy.

]]> By: Lee Murray http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/bolt-contemptibly-uses-bushfire-deaths-to-bash-greenies/#comment-14838 Lee Murray Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:02:01 +0000 http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/?p=765#comment-14838 Finally Rad, ...I find it laughable that you criticise the stuff I post as emotive, hysterical and without any real basis in fact. But unlike your hero (eg Boltenstein), at least I'm not shameless enough to call myself a "journalist" who will, without conscience, happily keep raking in the big $$$ for spewing my boring old biases while accusing others of doing the same! And, even worse, pretend that I'm on the side of the "worker", when all the while, everyone knows that I pity/hate/fear those "bogans" and have no qualms about writing pieces that knowingly and constantly subverts their best interests just to feather my own nest! Finally Rad, …I find it laughable that you criticise the stuff I post as emotive, hysterical and without any real basis in fact. But unlike your hero (eg Boltenstein), at least I’m not shameless enough to call myself a “journalist” who will, without conscience, happily keep raking in the big $$$ for spewing my boring old biases while accusing others of doing the same! And, even worse, pretend that I’m on the side of the “worker”, when all the while, everyone knows that I pity/hate/fear those “bogans” and have no qualms about writing pieces that knowingly and constantly subverts their best interests just to feather my own nest!

]]> By: Lee Murray http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/bolt-contemptibly-uses-bushfire-deaths-to-bash-greenies/#comment-14837 Lee Murray Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:08:43 +0000 http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/?p=765#comment-14837 Oh, and btw, Rad...guilty as charged re: going overboard with some of my comments, and while I don't shy away from the sentiments at all, I do (on re-reading 'em,) wish I hadn't resorted to such 'colourful' hyperbole on occasion. But if you're gonna have a go about my 'hysterical' posts, how about you have a look at your main-man Bolt...This is the guy who accused 'Finding Nemo' of a 'greenie' agenda in a Herald-Sun piece after the film was released. This is also the man who just recently blogged something along the lines of "Greenies hate you and are happy that you've lost your job!" This insane assertion from Dr. Bolt was made in response to a comment from Ross Garnaut (you know, the noted environmental warrior!!!), who simply stated that the global economic crisis might provide us with a little more breathing room of 2-3 years in which to actively develop alternatives to fossil fuels. Bolt's sooo right - this is obviously the comment of an evil man who will be rejoicing every time he sees the unemployment figures go up. No doubt he was skolling the Moet last night after hearing of the loss of nearly 2000 jobs at Pacific Brands! Oh, and btw, Rad…guilty as charged re: going overboard with some of my comments, and while I don’t shy away from the sentiments at all, I do (on re-reading ‘em,) wish I hadn’t resorted to such ‘colourful’ hyperbole on occasion.
But if you’re gonna have a go about my ‘hysterical’ posts, how about you have a look at your main-man Bolt…This is the guy who accused ‘Finding Nemo’ of a ‘greenie’ agenda in a Herald-Sun piece after the film was released. This is also the man who just recently blogged something along the lines of “Greenies hate you and are happy that you’ve lost your job!” This insane assertion from Dr. Bolt was made in response to a comment from Ross Garnaut (you know, the noted environmental warrior!!!), who simply stated that the global economic crisis might provide us with a little more breathing room of 2-3 years in which to actively develop alternatives to fossil fuels. Bolt’s sooo right – this is obviously the comment of an evil man who will be rejoicing every time he sees the unemployment figures go up. No doubt he was skolling the Moet last night after hearing of the loss of nearly 2000 jobs at Pacific Brands!

]]> By: Lee Murray http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/bolt-contemptibly-uses-bushfire-deaths-to-bash-greenies/#comment-14836 Lee Murray Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:28:51 +0000 http://blairboltwatch.wordpress.com/?p=765#comment-14836 What a surprise that you're quoting William Kininmonth, Rad, to "prove" your point! This was the guy that was shown up for being the truth manipulating denial-dinosaur he is by Prof. David Karoly in a climate-change debate last year at Kew Town Hall. Hey, Bill might never have had any of his Luddite denial pieces printed in peer-reviewed journals, but he's a regular contributor to Quadrant, so he obviously knows what he's talking about! Evidently, he's an old boy of the same Climate Sciences School that Dr. Boltenstein graduated from. What a surprise that you’re quoting William Kininmonth, Rad, to “prove” your point! This was the guy that was shown up for being the truth manipulating denial-dinosaur he is by Prof. David Karoly in a climate-change debate last year at Kew Town Hall. Hey, Bill might never have had any of his Luddite denial pieces printed in peer-reviewed journals, but he’s a regular contributor to Quadrant, so he obviously knows what he’s talking about!
Evidently, he’s an old boy of the same Climate Sciences School that Dr. Boltenstein graduated from.

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